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A Discussion on Responsible Hiring & Team Building
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A Discussion on Responsible Hiring & Team Building

by April Wensel

In this engaging discussion from the Rocky Mountain Ruby 2017 conference, April Wensel explores the critical themes of responsible hiring and team building within the software development community. Wensel, an engineer and founder of Compassionate Coding, aims to infuse emotional intelligence into software development processes, emphasizing that the human factors in development are often the most complex challenges teams face.

Key points discussed include:

- Importance of Compassionate Hiring: Wensel clarifies that compassion in hiring is about recognizing suffering in others and the desire to alleviate it rather than simply being nice. She emphasizes the value of emotional intelligence over mere technical capability.
- Human-Centric Problems: Most issues faced in development teams stem from human interactions, not technical failures. Wensel reflects on findings that highlight communication as a more significant hurdle than technological inadequacies.
- Incremental Improvement: Wensel advocates for gradual enhancements of team dynamics rather than complete overhauls, stressing that all teams possess potential for growth.

- Identifying Team Issues: Wensel discusses identifying problematic behavior, often rooted in passion, and suggests addressing miscommunications rather than labeling team members as difficult.
- Effective Feedback and Emotional Intelligence: She shares her journey towards providing constructive feedback, emphasizing the importance of understanding the influence feedback can have on colleagues.
- Hiring Practices and Biases: Emphasizing the need for structured hiring processes, Wensel highlights the significance of emotional intelligence and the necessity of fair evaluations beyond cultural fit.
- Team Dynamics and Culture: The conversation culminates in recognizing the need for a strong company culture that embraces vulnerability and humility while tackling emotional intelligence for its improvement.
- Personal Growth and Advocacy: Reflecting on her experiences, Wensel encourages individuals to be proactive in suggesting change and illustrates how advocating for better processes can lead to career advancement, reiterating that emotional intelligence is a skill for everyone, regardless of their role.

Overall, Wensel concludes that cultivating a culture around emotional intelligence and meaningful communication not only enhances team dynamics but also leads to a more fulfilling work environment for all involved in software development.

00:00:14.700 Hello, we're back. This is April.
00:00:21.400 April and I are going to have a fireside chat here.
00:00:27.250 I'll try not to swing back and forth; I think the fly has left me alone.
00:00:32.860 During Kerry's talk, I thought I was going crazy with it buzzing around my head, but here we are.
00:00:38.079 A couple of weeks ago, I was on Twitter, as I often am, and April had sparked some great conversations.
00:00:49.030 All Twitter conversations end up being fractured into multiple sub-conversations.
00:00:54.850 I suggested we get together and discuss some of these topics in person.
00:01:01.630 April was able to join us today. Can you provide a quick background on who you are and what you do?
00:01:07.390 Sure! Just to clarify from the start, I'm not in HR and I'm not a recruiter.
00:01:13.329 I am an engineer and have been for the past ten years professionally, and fifteen years total.
00:01:19.840 I've worked at a variety of startups in Silicon Valley.
00:01:26.470 I recently relocated to San Diego and I'm now primarily focused on Ruby on Rails development.
00:01:34.120 However, I consider myself a generalist and have worked in various capacities.
00:01:40.030 Most recently, I founded Compassionate Coding, my own company.
00:01:45.940 My goal is to bring emotional intelligence to the software development community.
00:01:51.850 This includes not just hiring practices but also improving team communication.
00:02:00.670 We need to start valuing the human element of software development as it deserves.
00:02:05.830 Pretty often, when you start a conversation with a team, you walk into an office and people think, 'Oh, here's the lady who's going to tell us to be nice to each other.' Is that how it goes?
00:02:13.450 No, because I usually do the background work ahead of time to get buy-in from leadership.
00:02:19.269 We discuss how important these issues are to the organization.
00:02:27.220 A common misconception is that compassion is synonymous with being nice.
00:02:33.040 I would not necessarily consider myself a nice person; I've been called abrasive.
00:02:38.980 However, I still consider myself compassionate.
00:02:44.920 Compassion, for me, is an optimization problem with the goal of minimizing suffering.
00:02:51.430 It means recognizing suffering in others and actively desiring to alleviate that suffering.
00:02:58.170 Sarah and I were chatting earlier, and I mentioned that I've started to wonder if software development is actually quite simple.
00:03:05.500 The people who build the software are inextricably linked to the software itself.
00:03:13.060 While the software part might be straightforward, it is the people that are really complicated.
00:03:18.150 Was that your experience when you were working full-time in development?
00:03:23.260 How did you transition from being an individual contributor writing code to now working with teams?
00:03:28.989 Absolutely. That's spot-on. A lot of the problems I encountered on teams were people problems—communication issues.
00:03:35.440 For instance, we wanted to introduce a new tool, but someone wouldn’t get on board.
00:03:40.629 That's a human problem. You might be discussing technology, but convincing someone to adopt a new tool is fundamentally a human issue.
00:03:47.079 I was reading a study from the Application Developer Alliance about why software projects fail.
00:03:55.120 The top reason was changing or poorly documented requirements.
00:04:01.150 Only 17% cited immature development tools as a reason.
00:04:07.120 Yet, a lot of our engineering energy is focused on building new frameworks, when the failures often stem from communication.
00:04:15.220 It needs to happen among the engineers, product people, design folks, and the customers.
00:04:20.260 An old friend in the industry, a consulting team lead, once said, 'I've never seen a project fail for technical reasons.'
00:04:27.260 Looking at the hoarding analogy that Sara was illustrating, I think many of us felt a similar anxiety.
00:04:32.330 It's not just the physical state; it's often about the underlying human issues.
00:04:38.200 Software problems are generally easier to fix. You can measure them, set goals, and prove whether you met those goals.
00:04:46.010 When someone reaches out for help, it's often when everything is on fire.
00:04:51.740 Is it usually when all is lost and you're called in to help?
00:04:57.020 Kind of, yes. That's why I often don’t openly discuss the companies I work with.
00:05:02.360 Sometimes, they’re in a state that might be a bit embarrassing; they wouldn’t want to admit it publicly.
00:05:09.470 Occasionally, it’s just an isolated incident, and they genuinely want help to deal with it.
00:05:16.670 The therapy comparison is valid—often, I feel like I'm doing a form of group therapy.
00:05:24.140 I would never call it that, but I help people communicate and build empathy.
00:05:29.930 It's difficult to measure empathy on a team clearly, but certain indicators exist.
00:05:35.210 For example, retention rates and the frequency of conflicts on communication platforms like Slack.
00:05:42.400 You can even gauge how many tantrums happen, which surprisingly occurs more often than one would think.
00:05:48.440 Incorporating surveys is not a perfect method to measure the atmosphere, but it helps.
00:05:54.230 You can analyze attitudes around psychological safety and feeling supported.
00:06:02.000 I find it funny how many engagements often start with Slack logs of complaints.
00:06:09.530 People think their situation is a disaster, yet there are always teams in worse positions.
00:06:17.270 It doesn’t mean the entire company or team is broken; it's often just the context.
00:06:23.660 In the hiring process, when prospective hires are selected without attention to their communication or conflict resolution skills, it leads to issues.
00:06:29.510 However, this is an exercise in growth; recognizing your hiring practices allowed this situation.
00:06:35.330 Developers build confidence when they visit other companies.
00:06:42.170 In my experience as a technical trainer, I often discovered that teams really didn't know what they were doing.
00:06:48.200 It's fascinating how that mindset shifts how you view your own capabilities.
00:06:55.070 Do you notice similar things when you walk into a new team on a consultancy?
00:07:01.330 Do you generally find teams that need a simple tune-up?
00:07:07.260 Or are there times when it feels like they need to be completely overhauled?
00:07:12.350 In most cases, the solution isn’t to start from scratch. It's about incremental improvement.
00:07:21.080 When I come in, teams tend to feel self-conscious about their challenges.
00:07:27.260 They often warn me about their logs in advance.
00:07:32.330 But I've seen it all before, so I try to be reassuring.
00:07:40.060 On a personal level, despite working on my self-awareness and emotional management, I still have my moments.
00:07:48.700 So I believe in a growth mindset—getting better over time is the goal.
00:07:55.750 Do you ever encounter conversations where people say, 'My team is awesome, except for this one person?'
00:08:01.200 Does that resonate with you?
00:08:07.730 Ironically, I often get along best with the challenging team members.
00:08:14.840 They often have potential for growth.
00:08:21.080 Many times, I find their destructive behavior is rooted in passion.
00:08:26.420 They may care deeply about certain aspects of the project and react strongly.
00:08:32.200 I help teams unpack these dynamics and understand each other's triggers.
00:08:39.100 However, if someone exhibits openly racist or sexist behavior, that’s a different issue.
00:08:46.630 In such cases, it's important to remove such individuals from the team.
00:08:50.150 How do I, as an individual, identify if I am that difficult person?
00:08:57.100 Asking that question is already a good sign.
00:09:02.210 We all have a bit of a jerk in us.
00:09:10.060 I’ve received feedback that I can be abrasive, which is a common experience for many women.
00:09:16.250 I used to struggle with providing constructive feedback in code reviews.
00:09:21.980 What I didn’t understand was how my critiques could affect others.
00:09:29.080 Learning to deliver feedback effectively is part of the emotional intelligence journey.
00:09:34.100 I consider myself a recovered difficult person.
00:09:41.470 If I can change, anyone can.
00:09:46.680 What first impressions do you look for when assessing a team's potential?
00:09:53.560 I never believe any team is hopeless. There’s always potential for change.
00:09:59.920 However, certain members may need assistance getting on board.
00:10:06.430 What I look for often goes beyond technical issues to reveal underlying people problems.
00:10:12.720 Even when a technical issue is presented, I seek to understand the real emotional underpinnings.
00:10:19.540 For example, if there are complaints about video conferencing tools, I look for the interpersonal dynamics.
00:10:25.910 It's essential to dig deeper to find where the disconnect exists.
00:10:32.880 You can identify issues when team members are sequestered and working individually without communication.
00:10:40.200 In most cases, it proves effective for remote teams to gather together once a year.
00:10:46.920 Face-to-face interaction is critical in emotional intelligence workshops.
00:10:54.500 So much communication is lost when relying on text; we must prioritize human contact.
00:11:02.880 Communicating critical topics requires a wider bandwidth, ranging from text to phone calls.
00:11:09.090 The choice of communication method should reflect the topic's importance.
00:11:16.580 Often, trivial issues mask deeper, more significant cultural conflicts.
00:11:22.830 Navigating team dynamics continuously evolves as the team undergoes changes.
00:11:29.570 Companies must evaluate their hiring processes in response to these dynamics.
00:11:36.160 The best teams often have a rubric in place to assess candidates.
00:11:42.830 A rubric standardizes measuring candidate performance and competencies.
00:11:49.740 The key is striving for objectivity, recognizing we are all inherently biased.
00:11:57.150 Recognizing biases is crucial to improve hiring processes, as they often impact outcomes.
00:12:03.360 Effective rubrics should focus on specific attributes and cultural fit, avoiding unnecessary complexity.
00:12:09.150 Hiring should not resemble a bureaucratic process of ticking boxes; it should feel meaningful.
00:12:16.680 Hiring should focus on more than just cultural likability; it must assess contributions.
00:12:22.570 Ultimately, building a team that works well together is the goal, not personal friendships.
00:12:30.150 Medium has a valuable blog post discussing hiring practices, emphasizing introspection and empathy.
00:12:37.350 Specific examples of candidate behavior indicate their ability to relate and understand.
00:12:44.130 As engineers often lack training in psychology, the interview process becomes complex.
00:12:50.460 Collectively, we must reevaluate hiring practices and ensure communication and connection are prioritized.
00:12:57.420 Hiring practices should target deeper motivations, not just code-focused interests.
00:13:04.150 Ultimately, the vulnerability should extend to asking candidates deeper questions during interviews.
00:13:10.770 Ask them to speak about their passion for solving human problems, not just programming.
00:13:17.280 Teams that face difficulties require a higher purpose to motivate them through challenges.
00:13:24.300 Everyone has something to contribute, regardless of their titles or backgrounds.
00:13:30.670 Although I may not lead interviews, I can advocate for these changes.
00:13:37.840 Start conversations with your team leads and suggest how they can improve processes.
00:13:44.190 Find a way to make it easy for management to agree to your suggestions.
00:13:50.080 Successfully pitching ideas for change can make a significant impact.
00:13:56.350 Being proactive in suggesting improvements will elevate your visibility in the organization.
00:14:03.490 I've witnessed people progress from individual contributor roles to leadership positions simply by advocating.
00:14:10.710 We're starting to see more companies create clear pathways for engineers to advance their careers.
00:14:17.140 However, I find that misunderstanding still exists within companies.
00:14:23.600 There's often confusion around definitions like junior developer versus senior developer.
00:14:30.400 This often leads to arbitrary distinctions that vary across organizations.
00:14:37.120 Moreover, the technical versus managerial paths often create a false dichotomy.
00:14:43.920 Everyone should cultivate leadership skills, even as an individual contributor.
00:14:50.160 The skills of emotional intelligence and leading one's life translate to improvement in team dynamics.
00:14:58.260 In the context of the 10x engineer, it reflects that many developers do not belong in their roles.
00:15:05.660 Building a strong team is the best method for achieving a 10x impact.
00:15:12.520 It's about fostering a strong culture around collaboration and support.
00:15:18.540 Do we have any questions from the audience? What common unconscious mistakes do you see?
00:15:25.120 The most significant mistake in hiring is defining what 'smart' means.
00:15:31.480 Often, companies rely on biased metrics: IQ tests or standardized performance.
00:15:40.730 Realizing that intelligence can manifest from a variety of backgrounds is essential.
00:15:47.870 Cultural and experiential diversity contributes deeply to team success.
00:15:53.300 How does emotional intelligence impact company culture?
00:16:02.350 Instilling emotional intelligence is paramount to addressing company culture.
00:16:09.800 It helps identify where shifts in culture are needed and gives individuals the tools to manage their emotions.
00:16:16.670 At the conclusion of my workshops, we create an actionable plan for company culture improvement.
00:16:25.590 Your work environment should not inhibit vulnerability nor genuine conversation.
00:16:34.200 True cultural change requires commitment from leadership and employees.
00:16:42.420 Vulnerability should be encouraged, and humility must be valued above ego.
00:16:49.360 Select workplaces where you can fully express yourself and appreciate vulnerability.
00:16:57.190 Cultivating a culture of growth allows for forgiveness and promotes authentic leadership.
00:17:06.320 Thank you, April.
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