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Automation in Deployment on Hybrid Hosting and Private Cloud Environments
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Automation in Deployment on Hybrid Hosting and Private Cloud Environments
by Fletcher Nicol, Matthew Cooker, Dr. Nic Williams, James Casey, Andy Camp, and Eric LindvallSummary of "Automation in Deployment on Hybrid Hosting and Private Cloud Environments"
In this panel discussion at RailsConf 2013, the speakers, including Fletcher Nicol and several industry experts, delve into the complexities of deploying scalable applications in hybrid hosting and private cloud environments. The session extends into the interplay between automation and deployment, highlighting both the challenges faced and strategies adopted by modern developers.
Key Points Discussed:
- Introduction of Panelists: Each panelist introduces themselves, outlining their backgrounds in various tech entities such as Pivotal Labs, OpsCode, and others, establishing their credibility and relevance to the topic.
- Industry Landscape: The discussion begins with an acknowledgment of the diverse deployment options available, emphasizing the balance between virtualized and bare metal servers and the challenges they pose for developers.
- APIs for Deployment: The need for efficient APIs around hardware and software interactions is highlighted, noting how this capability can streamline deployment processes. The consensus among panelists is that developers desire simplified systems for application resource allocation.
- Case Studies and Experiences:
- Blue Box: A hosting provider, shares insights from multiple customers about the diverse approaches to deployment, particularly focusing on hybrid models.
- King of the Web: Discusses leveraging APIs for scaling operations during high traffic events, detailing a successful implementation using New Relic and Chef.
- Continuous Integration and Deployment (CI/CD): Emphasis on the importance of CI/CD frameworks for automating deployment, with mentions of tools like Jenkins and Selenium that facilitate smooth transitions through various testing stages.
- Infrastructure as Code: The panel discusses adopting a coding approach to infrastructure management, which enhances consistency and repeatability in deploying applications.
- Testing and Monitoring: The necessity of proactive monitoring and smoke tests to validate deployments while retaining human oversight in critical decisions is underlined.
Important Takeaways:
- The shift towards automation in deployment is essential but must be approached with careful planning and a blend of human oversight to mitigate risks.
- Effective API management and proper configuration management tools are vital for achieving agile and reliable deployment processes.
- Continuous efforts in adapting to the changing environment of cloud services and infrastructure upgrades are necessary to maintain efficiency.
- Building environments that mirror production environments from the outset can prevent issues during deployment phases.
- The importance of visibility and predictability in resource provisioning remains a critical concern among developers in hybrid and multi-cloud scenarios.
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Thank you, so hey.
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Um, we're going to be talking about deployment and automation, and honestly, like, lots of buzzwords in this title.
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I am all about the buzzwords. All the buzzwords, yeah, we did that.
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So I'm Fletcher Nicol, a software engineer at Blue Box out of Seattle. While my name's on here for this talk, I'm hoping to actually not do a whole lot of talking.
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There's an amazing panel down here that can talk much more at length about these things than I can.
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I thought what I'd do is just kind of go down the row and have each panelist introduce themselves because they can do that far better than I can.
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Great, thanks! I'm Matthew Coker, a developer at Pivotal Labs. I've been working on Cloud Foundry.
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Now I work at Pivotal Labs, we're a division of Pivotal. It's very confusing frankly, but just call it Pivotal and we're fine.
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We are now carrying forward the development of Cloud Foundry, which is an open-source platform as a service.
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I'm leading the engineering effort there, so we're putting a huge amount of engineering resources behind it to make it the deployment platform that anyone uses for deploying apps.
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My name is Doc Nic. I used to be the VP of engineering on technology at Engine Yard, now I'm doing consultancy around Cloud Foundry.
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So I am in charge of harassing Matt pretty much; it's an awesome job.
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I have a lot of fun, especially when we're actually harassing each other, because I lose every time.
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I'm really looking forward to winning a couple of points today in front of the audience, so we can keep track of it.
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Anyway, right now, my name is James Casey, I'm a development lead at OpsCode, where I work on Chef, mostly on the backend servers.
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Before that, I worked at BankSimple here in Portland, deploying an online bank with Ruby, JRuby, Scala, and Java into EC2.
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My name is Andy Camp, and I'm a development manager at King of the Web.
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It's an awesome name! That's just one bit of the webmaster, which is the startup's underground online video where we give a cash prize to whoever gets the most votes.
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It's centered around independent web video creators. Before that, I was at Hark.com, which is a site centered on audio.
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I started at Hark with hardware on rented rack space, and I've deployed on raw EC2, Engine Yard, Blue Box, and personal sites on DreamHost, so I've had experience with a variety of different deployment strategies.
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My name is Eric Lindvall. I'm a co-founder of Papertrail. We help you see what's going on in your server and application logs and help you do something about it.
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I don't have anything else to say.
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So I think what we're trying to do is get a mix of people involved with businesses that are deploying their applications as well as some more platform and tool makers.
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We want to see where things are good and where things are not so good. The best-case scenario is that everybody's business gets bigger and better.
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But then, you know, comes all these complications. Let's talk about city starts and automating failing businesses.
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Failing businesses they want to admit to. Well, let's talk about that. I'm just curious to see what everybody's into these days regarding solving this problem at least for themselves.
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Speaking for myself from Blue Box, as a hosting provider, we get to see lots of different customers and ways that they do deployment.
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We're also a hybrid model of virtualized resources and bare metal servers, which gives us the additional challenge of helping customers provision their applications on resources.
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Sometimes those resources can be provisioned over API and then you have these actual physical servers.
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That can be quite the challenge as you grow your business, especially when dealing with more of these physical servers.
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What I would like to do is put APIs around that and just treat that hardware like software.
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We've been looking into how we can make our lives better internally on our platform as well as extending that out to customers.
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The idea is that if you know the requirements of your application, you just want to check boxes or make API calls.
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It would be really nice if all that was much more opaque.
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But the reality is that it's a very hard thing to do when you're trying to do one or the other.
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Cool! I think I'd sort of echo the sentiment that what developers really want is APIs around things they're going to have to interact with.
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Over the last few years, Heroku has shown, at least to many people in the Ruby community, that a PaaS cannot actually solve the needs of how they're going to deploy their applications.
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For the vast majority of them, unfortunately, we've also learned that the U.S. East is not the best place to host your application.
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Everybody else is understandably there, it's where the cloud is.
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I recognize that Heroku is working on being in multiple regions, but I love their commitment to get out of Virginia.
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We're going to Europe!
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I think what that shows is that the developers want an interface where they can specify their needs: here's my code, here's what resources it needs, it needs a database, a message bus, etc.
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They want to specify those needs and have the system run it automatically.
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Thus, we at Pivotal saw Cloud Foundry as the platform that would allow us to cater to customers who were unhappy with being in Amazon or other closed solutions.
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So, where Fletcher's working on those lower-level APIs that offer capabilities like a load balancer or an instance, we're focusing on much higher-level APIs.
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For instance, here's an application, here's the code, run it 100 times on different servers and distribute the load equally.
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It's essentially the same issues being approached from different levels.
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I work full-time with a large enterprise company involved in the music business. There's a big investment at the moment in redoing our approach to deploying.
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Cloud Foundry comprises a crucial part of that.
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Even though some larger groups might not want to exploit the talents of app developers, we realize as a solution, automation has to be provided.
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Nonetheless, we also incorporate Jenkins on top of that to ensure that CI can trigger deployment into a Cloud Foundry environment for testing.
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By running Selenium under that same mechanism, we are capable of moving apps smoothly from development, QA, and integration testing to staging and production.
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If you've worked in a smaller agile environment, you might be lucky not to worry about changing production until customers complain, but larger organizations often have strict rules against this.
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Instead, they strive never to change production and keep failing during staging.
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But we have all the automation developed around that.
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Another level of automation we must address relates to upgrading Cloud Foundry itself. Having ways to deploy your apps is great, but we also must adapt the underlying infrastructure.
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The changes don't come as swiftly for the infrastructure beneath the app as they do for the app itself.
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But eventually, changes like upgrading off MySQL 5-0, or moving towards better standards become critical.
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BOSH, which the Cloud Foundry group developed, is certainly something worthwhile.
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I think the first recommendation is to use configuration management tools, whatever they may be.
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Ultimately, we are discussing agility in business, reacting quickly to changes, including small adjustments like an app upgrade.
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Nonetheless, specific aspects of configuration management and how we conceive of them play into the concept of 'Infrastructure as code'.
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As developers and engineers, approaching infrastructure from a coding perspective allows us to standardize changes and apply them consistently.
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Imagine if the framework existed where you could improve upon your CI/CD workflow by having networking as code.
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This major shift empowers developers to handle infrastructure and makes it possible to experiment with it similarly to how we interact with our code.
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Ultimately, this evolves to relating it towards developers rather than solely relying on those in specialized roles that sometimes emerge.
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From a customer standpoint, at King of the Web, we faced the challenge of being a contest that gives away cash prizes.
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From the beginning, we wanted to maintain public vote counts so we could know the winner immediately after the contest ends.
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That being said, we discovered that content didn’t always win; personalities prevailed.
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These personalities, often YouTubers, wield immense social influence, generating 10 to 50 times their baseline traffic in about 15 minutes.
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Additionally, we would detect attempts to manipulate the voting system and create multiple accounts, but we accounted for this as well.
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We planned for scaling from the outset, but with the new challenge of handling high traffic, we had to quickly bring up 20 servers.
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This process actually went remarkably smoothly for us, as we utilized New Relic's API to detect traffic, Blue Box's API to create servers, and Chef to configure those servers once they were live.
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We were able to image our existing servers and scale those services quickly.
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This made it effective, especially when implementing a custom Rails app that utilized rake tasks for automation.
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As we tread through today's cloud landscape, we've also managed challenge in configuration changes, testing those changes as we scale.
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Having static environments to copy enabled us to effectively manage changes in our NGINX config, Resque workers, etc.
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Identifying these potential changes in a staging environment as opposed to production has posed a challenge.
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However, I believe that making progress in tools like the Chef client will help automate these processes in the future.
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There was an excellent point raised to address the need for APIs to deploy physical servers.
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I think the key aspects that people appreciate are the visibility of resource availability and the repeatability of the provisioning process.
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That predictability adds substantial value, greatly desired in deploying physical servers today.
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That's a solid point. Having a consistent turnaround time improves the ability to identify bottlenecks with more assertiveness.
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Even if things aren’t perfectly deterministic, it's about ensuring delivery time is consistent.
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An API without those deterministic aspects isn't necessarily going to alleviate the underlying issues developers hope to solve.
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Has anyone here extensively used the Amazon API? It's not just about having experience; it’s about automating it.
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Unfortunately, it lacks a determinism that makes automating error-prone due to the multiple endpoints associated.
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Imagine requesting a server and wondering if it's done yet; it takes forever to receive strong callbacks.
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You could hit an endpoint expecting it to be operational, but what if it says that server never existed?
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That abstraction can really create hurdles when automating deployments.
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In Portland, we have a data center—let's go down and visit our local Amazon personnel.
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I guess with the business application developer hats on, what do we do when things inevitably go wrong?
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If all automation implements, it doesn’t guarantee a perfect outcome.
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Automation exists to limit human error but still requires oversight.
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I'm curious if anyone has ideas on tackling that strange balance between deploying flawless and efficient software.
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Exactly, for us, it's about adopting strategies for scaling that may include scaling up by at least six servers.
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By managing redundancy, we ensure there's always more capacity than needed.
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It's imperative to trust automation while still allowing room for a human to intervene.
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This might mean ensuring smoke tests are regularly being run to validate the deployment.
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Meeting pre-determined thresholds, along with proactive monitoring, is essential.
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Achieving a balance between automation for efficiency and retaining human touch for critical decisions is the way to go.
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But don't underestimate the importance of configuration management tools.
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Without documentation, it becomes virtually impossible to understand that what you're doing is valuable.”},{
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