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How We Built TechLadies

Elisha Tan • October 12, 2017 • Selangor, Malaysia • Talk

Elisha Tan, in her talk at RubyConf MY 2017, discusses her journey in creating TechLadies, a community aimed at educating and empowering women in programming and technology. With a focus on promoting gender diversity in tech, she shares insights into her passion project and the importance of community support in learning and career advancement.

Key Points Discussed:

  • Community Introduction: TechLadies serves as a platform for women to connect, learn, and advance as programmers, targeting women from various backgrounds who may feel excluded from the tech industry.
  • Personal Motivation: Tan shares her personal experiences of feeling out of place in the tech community, emphasizing that programming should be accessible to everyone, regardless of gender or background.
  • Programming for All: The community aims to break down barriers in programming education, encouraging women to see coding as achievable.
  • TechLadies Initiatives:
    • Boot Camps: Part-time programs to provide women with practical programming skills, where participants contribute to real-world projects for non-profits.
    • Success Stories: Tan highlights stories of women like Clara and Cynthia, who transitioned into tech roles after attending the boot camp, showcasing the transformative power of education.
    • Tech Talks and Office Visits: These platforms provide opportunities for women to present their work, network, and learn about different roles in tech, reducing intimidation and fostering confidence.
    • Coding Weekends: Hands-on workshops to teach basic programming skills, often conducted in various locations to reach a broader audience.
  • Community Support: Stressing that competition among women is less important than collaboration, Tan encourages sharing resources and knowledge to uplift all members of the community.
  • Marketing and Awareness: She emphasizes the role of marketing in bringing visibility to the initiatives and the programmers involved, increasing opportunities for their integration into the tech workforce.
  • Lessons Learned: Tan reflects on the importance of having a clear educational purpose, community involvement, and the power of supportive environments in helping women grow in tech.

Conclusion and Takeaways:

  • The focus should remain on creating inviting spaces for all individuals in tech.
  • Empowering women by providing access to resources can significantly impact their careers.
  • Every contribution to the community matters, from organizing events to mentoring.
  • By raising each other up, the community can address larger social issues while promoting diversity in tech.

How We Built TechLadies
Elisha Tan • October 12, 2017 • Selangor, Malaysia • Talk

Speaker: Elisha Tan (@elishatan)

Website: http://rubyconf.my

Produced by Engineers.SG

RubyConf MY 2017

00:00:06.070 hi everyone my name is Elijah my twitter
00:00:09.110 handle is just my name and today I just
00:00:11.330 realized that I'm actually
00:00:13.010 is so I got shut that out so I created
00:00:16.550 tech ladies and today I'm going to share
00:00:17.930 more about it with you so technologies
00:00:19.910 is a community for a woman to connect
00:00:22.130 learn and advance as programmers so we
00:00:24.680 focus on teaching programming to woman
00:00:26.660 without attack background and we aim to
00:00:28.279 bring more women into the industry so
00:00:30.950 before I begin since we're talking about
00:00:33.080 how we build technologies in Singapore I
00:00:35.150 need to edit my title and second of all
00:00:40.730 I want to clarify something it's really
00:00:42.350 subtle and I don't think that you could
00:00:44.360 see it unless I point it out to you but
00:00:46.940 I have to be honest that the mustache is
00:00:48.949 a lie I'm just really trying to come
00:00:52.370 across as non-threatening an awkward
00:00:55.010 joke so in this talk what I wanted to
00:00:58.640 share with you more about is that what
00:01:00.440 tech ladies it's about what we do and
00:01:02.600 also the lessons learned along the way
00:01:04.129 this is not a lie but before I start I
00:01:07.310 want to share why gender diversity is
00:01:09.350 important to me and why I believe in the
00:01:11.900 work that we do so we have all benefited
00:01:14.210 from a community like this right now
00:01:16.790 even from a bunch of online tutorials
00:01:18.290 free tools or just getting help from one
00:01:20.570 another
00:01:20.960 we have all gained something from this
00:01:22.910 community so I feel really strongly
00:01:25.790 about this like why should anyone feel
00:01:27.920 that programming is not for them because
00:01:29.720 they don't look like a programmer right
00:01:31.940 I believe that everyone should be able
00:01:33.740 to learn programming without feeling
00:01:35.840 like they don't belong in the community
00:01:37.430 and I'm not just talking about woman
00:01:39.410 it could be know people from all kinds
00:01:41.120 of backgrounds races nationalities or
00:01:43.280 physical abilities so gender diversity
00:01:45.680 was simply the area I choose to focus on
00:01:47.750 because it's what's something that
00:01:48.770 resonated to me most because I'm not a
00:01:52.040 software engineer so technologies is my
00:01:54.500 passion project and I have a day job in
00:01:56.450 MNC working on developer programs some
00:01:59.300 Niner developer an hour program or just
00:02:01.280 developer programs and the story my
00:02:05.390 story of creating technology is started
00:02:07.159 in 2011 when I picked up rails because I
00:02:09.709 couldn't find a tech co-founder for my
00:02:11.180 now date startup so that's when I was
00:02:13.190 exposed to the developer community and a
00:02:15.379 wonderful programming which I'm sure all
00:02:18.170 of you agree that writing code is
00:02:20.030 amazing although occasionally you feel
00:02:22.400 like sleeping a laptop so
00:02:24.099 my programming allow us to express
00:02:25.930 ourselves to communicate an idea with
00:02:28.599 the software instead of words and the
00:02:30.639 things that we create can really help
00:02:31.959 ourselves or someone else and the people
00:02:34.989 here are amazing initially I felt out of
00:02:37.659 place attacked me nuts because I don't
00:02:39.579 dress the same I don't talk the same I
00:02:41.349 cry funny jokes so but as I get to know
00:02:44.859 more people here I realized that the
00:02:46.480 community is really helpful and you know
00:02:48.989 that they let me to think that
00:02:51.549 understand that programming is meant to
00:02:53.590 be accessible by all so we're on a woman
00:02:56.650 is it not interesting for them or this
00:02:59.049 actually some other issues stopping
00:03:00.700 women from learning how to code I didn't
00:03:03.790 know how to solve this problem until a
00:03:05.650 friend asked me to help him at a real
00:03:07.510 skills session in 2014 so rosca it's a
00:03:11.169 global not-for-profit community that
00:03:13.419 teaches woman how to cope with meals so
00:03:15.609 it was through the experience of
00:03:17.469 interacting with other woman then
00:03:19.269 discover that there's a joy in teaching
00:03:21.189 people how to code and you know it's
00:03:24.189 very exciting when you see their eyes
00:03:25.480 light up when they realize that oh this
00:03:27.280 is programming this is so easy I can do
00:03:28.959 this so that's why when I was in-between
00:03:31.659 jobs I wanted to build something that
00:03:33.579 can bring more women into the industry
00:03:35.620 through education that's how we created
00:03:38.019 tech babies which is again a community
00:03:40.780 for women to connect learn and advance
00:03:42.519 as programmers so we do three things
00:03:46.090 community education and opportunity
00:03:48.400 we're trying to reach women who are
00:03:51.040 Kimmy and learning about the tech
00:03:52.150 industry all the way to as a sting
00:03:53.859 programmers and I'll share what each of
00:03:55.810 this means so we want to bring a place
00:03:59.079 where women can find and learn from one
00:04:01.060 another we also want to teach women
00:04:03.519 basic programming skills and lastly we
00:04:06.759 want to help women who wants to enter
00:04:08.049 the tech industry to make the switch so
00:04:11.530 under these three pillars are six
00:04:13.780 programs so I'm gonna share about what
00:04:15.579 each program does so feel free to steal
00:04:18.519 or copy any of this you see here
00:04:20.579 implementing your workplace our
00:04:22.360 community so I often get asked if I'm
00:04:25.389 worried about competition amongst women
00:04:27.250 groups in
00:04:28.169 so I don't believe in competition
00:04:29.789 because we're all working towards the
00:04:31.590 same goal and I think that the sooner
00:04:33.960 never reach the goal
00:04:34.889 the sooner we can go Soph another social
00:04:37.080 problem which is great so feel free to
00:04:39.210 steal copy anything here so I start
00:04:42.060 talking more about the boot camp under
00:04:44.669 the opportunity pillar fancy transition
00:04:49.050 so the boot camp the tag ladies boot
00:04:51.330 camp is a part-time accelerated learning
00:04:53.340 program to help women with basic
00:04:55.020 programming skills to become
00:04:56.370 professional programmers so the
00:04:58.499 participants are guided by industry
00:05:00.270 experts to create products for
00:05:01.710 nonprofits so this actually products
00:05:03.360 that being used in a while so if you
00:05:06.750 notice this photo they are men here so
00:05:09.439 it shouldn't be so that's another thing
00:05:12.599 right like we are for a woman but we are
00:05:14.759 not NT men so we recognize that men has
00:05:17.490 something to play to so and since we
00:05:21.419 start the tech ladies last January we so
00:05:23.729 far so far we have about three we have
00:05:25.439 three batches on boot camp
00:05:26.610 29 woman have graduated from the program
00:05:28.979 there a stewardess gymnastics teacher
00:05:31.379 customer service rep photographer and a
00:05:33.659 bunch of non tech gross before the boot
00:05:35.699 camp and seven of these ladies currently
00:05:38.069 hold a technical role with more being in
00:05:40.199 the tech industry as non engineering
00:05:41.879 roles I think we can cut today thank you
00:05:49.039 so during the boot camp we have helped
00:05:51.479 nine nonprofits to solve their pain
00:05:53.129 points we have technology some of the
00:05:55.229 examples where creator include a film
00:05:57.120 submission at an adoption and a
00:05:59.219 classroom management app in a donor
00:06:00.810 management app so this is typically
00:06:03.509 replace this email paper or Excel I hope
00:06:08.099 you know Microsoft people here we're
00:06:10.409 good cool so and it's not just about
00:06:13.139 teaching them technical skills right we
00:06:14.729 also help the boot camp participants
00:06:16.289 waive exposure by publishing articles
00:06:18.659 about them and pushing them to do talks
00:06:20.490 so I want to share the stories of two
00:06:22.830 ladies in particular first is Clara on
00:06:25.379 the left so she found her love for
00:06:28.979 develop a web development when she was a
00:06:30.689 teen but she could not pursue a CS
00:06:32.819 degree because she did badly for a
00:06:34.589 levels and that started up unfulfilled
00:06:37.019 in career and something that she's not
00:06:38.459 keen in before she decided to do a
00:06:40.620 fashion
00:06:41.350 business so fashion was something she
00:06:43.930 could do
00:06:44.470 but it was not something that she could
00:06:45.940 see herself doing for the rest of her
00:06:47.380 life so that's when she decided that she
00:06:49.510 wanted to get back into tech but she was
00:06:51.670 struggling with the learning how to code
00:06:54.160 on her own before she joined a boot camp
00:06:56.350 and today her coach at the boot camp
00:06:58.420 actually gave her an internship where
00:07:00.190 she then converted into a junior role
00:07:01.870 and she has since returned to
00:07:03.400 technologies as one of our speaker it's
00:07:05.680 pretty amazing the other story I want to
00:07:08.650 highlight sinking she's right there
00:07:10.660 so sinking was that kicked out of
00:07:12.880 master's program in chemistry so which
00:07:15.910 led her to start a customer service
00:07:17.860 officer career when a friend of her told
00:07:20.470 her about programming and that intrigued
00:07:22.720 her got her started in interest in in
00:07:25.090 tech so I remember how Cynthia would
00:07:27.520 sometimes stay there like 1:00 a.m.
00:07:28.870 every night after a full-time job to
00:07:30.640 learn how to code and today so she's a
00:07:34.210 developer today she's a developer at a
00:07:35.860 startup she has spoken at our DRC in
00:07:38.230 front of Matt and she has also come back
00:07:40.930 to Malaysia to organize a tech lady's
00:07:43.180 workshop it's amazing to see how people
00:07:45.550 come back to pay it forward and come
00:07:48.010 back to contribute back after receiving
00:07:49.870 help from the community so a few lessons
00:07:53.020 learned first of all I honestly didn't
00:07:55.330 expect it to work maybe it's kind of
00:07:57.280 weird to say it now but you know finding
00:08:00.340 educating and curating non NGOs we're
00:08:03.490 not technical getting developers with
00:08:05.950 full-time jobs to do to volunteer at
00:08:07.930 least 100 hours interesting beginners to
00:08:11.170 create a product for with a real word
00:08:13.810 purpose sounded crazy which I which I'm
00:08:18.400 very happy that in practical you work
00:08:19.990 better than on paper second thing I
00:08:23.200 learned is that having an NGO in mind is
00:08:25.360 really helpful for beginners because it
00:08:27.340 keeps them motivated to create something
00:08:29.050 complete next thing I learned is that
00:08:31.480 people really want to help even if the
00:08:33.760 ask is really big but I need some
00:08:36.010 direction on how and what to help on and
00:08:38.860 also marketing is important it's not
00:08:41.229 just about technical skills but it's
00:08:42.820 also marketing in highlighting woman and
00:08:45.910 also bringing them into the industry so
00:08:48.160 you know I think a secret sauce here
00:08:50.959 on how our graduates could compete with
00:08:53.629 people who are who are CS grads or
00:08:55.879 graduates a full-time boot camp is that
00:08:58.040 we provide a learning objective we give
00:09:00.980 people a structure to learn and we have
00:09:02.899 the community to provide references and
00:09:04.759 upon charity which i think is a
00:09:06.410 recurring term that we've seen in the
00:09:08.149 tops of today there's a lot of community
00:09:10.310 in there
00:09:11.529 so really amazing the next thing I want
00:09:14.959 to talk about is the Tech Talks so the
00:09:19.879 Tech Talks was created by getting one of
00:09:22.100 the bootcamp graduate so in this tech
00:09:24.259 talk we feature two the three female
00:09:26.209 beginners giving technical talks so by
00:09:28.850 putting this beginners on station to
00:09:30.620 share it helps them build our confidence
00:09:32.209 and inspire other woman in the any
00:09:35.000 audience that programming is possible
00:09:36.769 for them so Jean see who you're here
00:09:39.079 tomorrow she gave her first public talk
00:09:41.540 and our Tech Talk event and she has seen
00:09:44.029 done like amazing joint public speaking
00:09:46.129 I'm really excited for a talk no
00:09:47.629 pressure so because of the nature of
00:09:50.839 these events what I learned is that it's
00:09:52.579 very important to communicate the right
00:09:54.350 expectations to the audience because
00:09:56.329 they're not sure to listen to experts
00:09:57.649 and so so that's the that's the main
00:10:00.949 sort of lion thing that you have to be
00:10:02.839 clear about and they need to know that
00:10:05.089 we're here because we're part of a
00:10:06.709 supportive community and to provide peer
00:10:09.439 learning another thing that we hear from
00:10:13.550 our community when they see this tech
00:10:15.769 industry they don't know like what is it
00:10:18.050 like what a different roles in there so
00:10:20.740 we decided to create this new series of
00:10:23.899 events called office visits which link
00:10:26.360 over there has took on the role in
00:10:28.100 organizing so in this see in this series
00:10:30.379 we bring our community the different
00:10:32.029 companies to hear about here from the
00:10:34.189 stories of the female employees working
00:10:36.019 there so this this photo is pretty
00:10:39.439 interesting because this was after the
00:10:41.449 official panel discussion so people were
00:10:43.910 just mingling with each other and all of
00:10:45.529 a sudden there is yet another informal
00:10:47.629 panel discussion going on
00:10:49.860 so the next thing I want to talk about
00:10:52.420 is the programs under the education
00:10:55.090 pillars that thing from the coding
00:10:56.530 weekend which is pretty straightforward
00:10:57.880 this is a according weekend so it's
00:11:01.000 initiated by Sinkin and it's a two-day
00:11:03.070 workshop where women learn about basic
00:11:04.630 Ruby Ruby on Rails and CSS HTML so it's
00:11:08.110 usually conducted outside of Singapore
00:11:10.000 because we have a lot of groups serving
00:11:11.590 woman and Singapore but the same can be
00:11:13.630 said in other places when you go out of
00:11:15.490 the country so this photo was taken
00:11:17.470 earlier this year resilient organized
00:11:19.690 the coding weekend here in Kuala Lumpur
00:11:21.520 for 80 woman so some of our assistant
00:11:23.980 coaches also here as well I wanna give a
00:11:25.510 shout out to Zuri and Xue and Greek so
00:11:29.440 the curriculum that we use is available
00:11:31.000 on our github also let me know if you
00:11:32.530 want to bring it to your city now one
00:11:35.410 thing we learned that doing a workshop
00:11:36.970 overseas is that working with someone
00:11:38.560 local it's extremely important to help
00:11:40.630 us with good venue partnership and
00:11:42.520 marketing so under their workshops we
00:11:45.730 also run study groups this is a self
00:11:48.250 reliant study group for beginners where
00:11:50.050 we just meet at a cafe to learn and
00:11:51.850 practice computer science with one or
00:11:53.950 two mentors joining us to answer
00:11:55.690 technical questions so it's really easy
00:11:57.670 to get started but honestly it's
00:12:00.010 difficult to maintain momentum because
00:12:01.690 people come and go so the last programs
00:12:05.230 that I want to share the tech ladies go
00:12:08.260 and eat go eat so thank this go is
00:12:12.010 basically as sharing events that other
00:12:14.590 people are organizing so that woman can
00:12:16.750 find my another to attend together so I
00:12:19.450 remember once I saw my people but I
00:12:21.730 remember once when I shared about a
00:12:23.230 hackathon
00:12:23.830 in our tech ladies group and woman were
00:12:26.170 actually asking if they couldn't go they
00:12:29.740 were asking like Oh am I good enough to
00:12:31.510 go I'm not right technical but can I go
00:12:33.330 but what happened is that the ended up
00:12:35.800 encouraging one another and forming
00:12:37.450 teams so that they are not alone and for
00:12:39.790 many or then this was their first
00:12:41.020 hackathon and ever attended so it
00:12:43.750 basically is a get-together for the
00:12:45.580 community because we love tech and we
00:12:47.410 love food just an excuse to get out
00:12:50.930 so I hope this overview of what we do at
00:12:53.490 Tec ladies was helpful in getting you to
00:12:55.680 start thinking about how you can make
00:12:57.329 the Ruby community even more awesome and
00:12:59.459 now in the switch gears in talking about
00:13:01.470 what I've learned starting an initiative
00:13:03.810 like tech ladies so starting a passion
00:13:07.920 project has a lot of benefit the main
00:13:10.709 benefit is that you can choose what you
00:13:12.420 want to do and how you want to do it and
00:13:14.699 that music is good all the kids you want
00:13:17.100 in your presentation and this is my best
00:13:20.160 slide so take photo please okay moving
00:13:25.980 on and and and I think what's more is
00:13:30.510 that it's extremely rewarding to see the
00:13:32.730 impact of your work and something so
00:13:34.620 small something so small like teaching
00:13:36.839 them how to code can you can really have
00:13:38.940 a very lasting impact in your lives
00:13:40.949 and second of all you don't need
00:13:42.449 permission on skills you want again like
00:13:44.279 if you want to lead people go ahead if
00:13:45.930 you want to try new ideas go ahead you
00:13:47.910 don't need someone to give you a
00:13:49.050 permission to do it and what I realized
00:13:51.720 that in doing that it actually came back
00:13:53.639 and benefited my career because the
00:13:55.860 skills that I gained in tech ladies
00:13:57.750 helped with my full time job an
00:14:00.120 employer's want to know what you're
00:14:01.320 passionate about and your site projects
00:14:03.360 show it
00:14:04.399 lastly you don't care about
00:14:06.089 profitability or business model and of
00:14:09.209 course this is definitely rewarding to
00:14:11.640 see when you meet and work with people
00:14:13.350 who share the same beliefs but my
00:14:16.649 biggest lesson I've learned is this I
00:14:18.899 don't need to get to a specific level of
00:14:21.329 skills or be good enough before I am
00:14:24.029 able to start contributing meaningfully
00:14:27.019 so before I started helping out at
00:14:29.550 events I thought the only way to
00:14:31.230 contribute back to the community was by
00:14:33.510 contributing the repos and I felt really
00:14:36.000 demoralized when I tried following the
00:14:38.490 advice of getting started with
00:14:39.779 documentation if you heard advice is
00:14:42.899 terrible because to be good at
00:14:45.269 documentation you need you need to be
00:14:46.889 good at that that framework and
00:14:49.240 length of spoken language which is very
00:14:51.700 difficult so so when I I started to be
00:14:57.430 able to contribute back when I stopped
00:15:00.220 focusing on what I don't know how to do
00:15:01.899 and start focusing on what I know how to
00:15:04.480 do and could do and I realized that
00:15:06.550 that's actually a lot of things so
00:15:08.770 before we and I want to share some easy
00:15:10.810 ideas for you to start thinking about
00:15:12.459 contributing back so first of all
00:15:15.279 organizing things so events and
00:15:17.620 conferences need someone to organize
00:15:19.120 bring people together or the food
00:15:21.250 sponsorship and a lot of emailing so
00:15:24.040 this might not sound exciting but you
00:15:26.080 really never know the real impact of the
00:15:28.750 event so Gabriel was not here by will be
00:15:32.529 here tomorrow speaking as well she
00:15:34.480 learned about the tech industry at a
00:15:35.950 tech ladies event and that's when she
00:15:37.779 found her passion in tech so much so
00:15:40.390 that she postponed her college to start
00:15:42.100 her career as a developer which is truly
00:15:44.950 amazing you should talk to her about it
00:15:46.360 when you see her tomorrow
00:15:47.610 and if event organizing isn't your cup
00:15:50.589 of tea you can also help out at events
00:15:53.220 so there's a couple of ways that you can
00:15:55.300 help out so you can design collateral
00:15:57.220 like how Natalie was also here designed
00:15:59.649 all the leader icons we used because
00:16:01.660 she's she saw what I did and it was crap
00:16:03.610 we both agree it's crap
00:16:04.930 you could also source for vendors emcee
00:16:07.570 at the event or talk to your manager
00:16:08.770 about hosting or sponsoring a meet-up or
00:16:12.220 you could share your knowledge so you
00:16:15.190 don't need to know a lot in order to be
00:16:16.930 able to share what you know so this is
00:16:19.510 the workshop we ran for tech ladies for
00:16:21.399 60 women learning CSS and one thing I
00:16:23.829 learned is that the problems that
00:16:25.300 they're running - actually not bugs most
00:16:27.970 of the time they're just like this typo
00:16:29.589 they forgot the closing tag or they're
00:16:31.390 in the wrong wrong folder and this
00:16:33.250 should not be difficult with for anyone
00:16:35.079 with some basic programming skills to
00:16:36.760 help you don't need to be at level 100
00:16:39.250 to teach someone at level 0 you just
00:16:41.770 need to be a level 2 or 3 to be good
00:16:43.600 enough and if someone asks you a
00:16:45.459 question that you don't know what do you
00:16:46.899 do you Google right Google is always
00:16:49.959 here for you
00:16:52.140 and if teaching isn't your your thing
00:16:54.970 you can also share what you have learned
00:16:56.380 from events so a couple of our workshop
00:16:59.320 attendees wrote notes about what they
00:17:01.060 have learned and share it out to other
00:17:03.130 newbies who they found to be really
00:17:05.170 helpful all right you can do what
00:17:07.750 Michael do he's also a Technium coach
00:17:10.150 right there so here's creator and genius
00:17:12.550 thought SG when his team would attend
00:17:14.680 most of the tech meetups in Singapore
00:17:16.540 filmed in and out of them onto this site
00:17:18.670 it's extremely labor intensive but by
00:17:21.010 doing that people can learn from events
00:17:22.600 that they have missed or if you come
00:17:25.570 across someone working on something
00:17:27.460 interesting encourage them to present
00:17:29.560 about it too many people think that they
00:17:31.720 are not good enough and could really use
00:17:33.520 the encouragement from you so I have
00:17:36.520 received one such and comment
00:17:38.050 encouragement myself so so I signed up
00:17:41.230 to present a lightning talk a ruby Kylie
00:17:43.090 after-party last year and I was really
00:17:45.070 nervous about it because if there's one
00:17:46.420 conference that you freaked out that
00:17:47.950 it's a ruby Kylie certainly so I try
00:17:51.100 wrote into the organizers organizers to
00:17:53.020 see if I could give a talk and this was
00:17:55.180 the reply and I eventually they give the
00:17:57.610 talk because I do agree that yeah if
00:18:00.010 there are Jung they probably wouldn't
00:18:01.180 know if I messed up so it's kind good
00:18:03.960 the last thing on my list is this like
00:18:06.520 every little thing counts like helping
00:18:08.350 out doesn't have to be a big event or
00:18:10.090 like a passion project these are things
00:18:12.040 like keeping up picking up the trash
00:18:13.750 packing up chairs inviting women to
00:18:16.120 attend all speaking events highlighting
00:18:17.950 their accomplishment or just compliment
00:18:19.900 someone for a job well done
00:18:21.190 so Jimmy thank you for organizing this
00:18:24.220 conference but yeah probably not here
00:18:30.290 in a contributing to the tech community
00:18:32.940 goes beyond just writing courts
00:18:34.770 documentation fixing bugs it certainly
00:18:37.290 does not have to be technical it's about
00:18:39.360 creating ways for the community to get
00:18:41.160 together share knowledge enabling -
00:18:43.800 enabling others to teach more people or
00:18:46.110 by making a community of anyplace for
00:18:48.150 everyone and with that I hope this don't
00:18:51.600 give you an idea on how you can start
00:18:53.220 contributing right now this is the end
00:18:55.050 of my talk thank you for listening and
00:18:56.790 thank you for your contribution to the
00:18:58.260 community thank you thank you so much
00:19:04.350 for your talking your contribution for
00:19:05.910 coming down here okay you had to come
00:19:08.160 all the way forward down from Singapore
00:19:09.390 anybody have a question that you'd like
00:19:12.000 to ask about community building about
00:19:13.620 contributing back to community oh sure
00:19:16.140 Nick
00:19:22.870 how can be about phase that comes
00:19:27.600 later
00:19:30.570 we want to eat
00:19:32.800 at the other end of that pipeline
00:19:39.520 give us freebies I think my god other
00:19:42.470 than that give us jobs this has the best
00:19:44.360 thing ever
00:19:44.810 I think it's about telling letting us
00:19:49.550 know I think before that I guess I even
00:19:53.510 before that making sure that your
00:19:54.920 environment is conducive for a woman and
00:19:57.890 also for learning because a lot of woman
00:20:00.470 especially for that the the community
00:20:02.750 that that ladies these are people who
00:20:04.340 have missed the opportunity to be
00:20:06.170 formally educated in CS so a lot of
00:20:08.450 times they call in do boot camp and you
00:20:10.160 know like I don't I don't think that
00:20:12.260 three months boot camp when you stuck it
00:20:14.390 out with a CS grad they are at a
00:20:15.770 disadvantage they need to catch up a lot
00:20:18.160 which is why I think having a conducive
00:20:20.480 environment the focuses along teaching
00:20:23.720 and empowering junior developers would
00:20:26.960 be like the most important step and of
00:20:29.120 course then you know giving giving
00:20:30.740 internships junior roles sweat
00:20:33.050 mentorship know those basic stuff I
00:20:35.660 think that will that help to about
00:20:36.950 that's the most important thing is the
00:20:38.600 right learning environment that's also
00:20:42.680 yep any other question goes oh yeah go
00:20:47.300 ahead Alex of course Alex
00:20:54.730 the problem is humor how we as a
00:20:58.810 community can identify the toxic
00:21:01.270 environment
00:21:03.290 these are welcome always in the
00:21:07.250 community
00:21:08.470 diversity
00:21:10.930 the experience so so so the question is
00:21:22.360 about how can we make sure that the
00:21:23.770 environment is not toxic for women who
00:21:25.840 are thinking of entering the industry
00:21:27.460 taking into consideration what has
00:21:29.260 happened over and also a Google right
00:21:31.000 okay so it's it's definitely a very
00:21:36.310 tough question and at the same time I
00:21:40.120 was saying two things first of all
00:21:43.900 listen for a woman who are already and
00:21:45.790 then that she listen to them because I
00:21:47.590 feel that a lot of times even even if
00:21:50.470 you are well intended you have very good
00:21:53.290 intentions sometimes you don't know
00:21:54.970 what's the best way to help and I think
00:21:56.230 asking your your teammates is a good
00:21:58.870 start
00:21:59.350 and for getting more women into the
00:22:01.420 industry what I learn is that because
00:22:04.450 this woman these people they are not
00:22:06.220 from the industry yet so a lot of times
00:22:08.650 they don't know what's happening within
00:22:10.000 our industry it's great we can track
00:22:11.830 them now so so I would say I would say
00:22:14.740 you know don't focus so much on telling
00:22:17.440 people that the sexism in my industry
00:22:19.870 you know you're gonna watch but I'm here
00:22:21.730 for you
00:22:22.180 they'll probably freak them out it's not
00:22:23.650 that the biggest problem that they want
00:22:24.820 to data facing now
00:22:25.960 the kind of problems that I face it's
00:22:27.700 more of like I don't know what to learn
00:22:29.350 and when I have a problem I don't know
00:22:31.630 where I can go one of the different
00:22:35.140 roles in the industry it was good for me
00:22:37.650 this um this arm or am I good enough
00:22:40.360 that's the thing that they they always
00:22:42.190 ask me the whole hackathon thing I don't
00:22:44.980 get it because my people are asking me
00:22:46.510 if I could if they could attend a
00:22:47.980 hackathon I'm like I'm a Josh I don't
00:22:49.780 even know what I'm doing there so yeah
00:22:51.130 why not so the confidence thing is is a
00:22:54.400 common theme that I see across which I
00:22:56.770 don't know is it a woman thing or you
00:22:58.150 just like a beginner thing I don't know
00:22:59.680 about it's a thing
00:23:03.200 I'm sorry but I want to stand up and of
00:23:05.909 course with it you still like that it's
00:23:08.399 really important for us as a community
00:23:09.870 absolutely as a deaf people people so I
00:23:25.500 also have my boot camp coaches gin C and
00:23:27.960 Michael's right yeah this year we've
00:23:33.539 like we've had a lot more women speakers
00:23:35.789 in comparison to last year which is
00:23:37.110 amazing and has actually drawn a lot
00:23:39.090 more women attendees so this has been a
00:23:41.190 great plus for all of us any any final
00:23:43.620 questions
00:23:55.770 that
00:24:24.269 wandering forward
00:24:29.520 yeah so you'll be amazed like how early
00:24:32.220 gender stereotypes begin so my colleague
00:24:34.740 was telling me that this little like her
00:24:36.480 daughter two or three she wanted a
00:24:38.520 spider-man tattoo stick-on tattoo of
00:24:40.260 course no I'm saying that but you know
00:24:43.350 another girl who's about six year old
00:24:45.300 told her that that's not for girls so
00:24:47.400 ugly and then she the mom made my
00:24:50.130 coworker was really shocked at how early
00:24:52.140 things start so I don't really have like
00:24:56.460 I think it's very culturally specific it
00:24:59.490 depends on the culture that you are from
00:25:01.110 and also the the market some social
00:25:03.990 values in general but I do think that
00:25:06.120 having role models seeing that someone
00:25:09.000 with similar background can do it means
00:25:11.730 that it can be done that's one the
00:25:14.070 second thing is opportunity and in
00:25:15.929 workshops online resources support for
00:25:19.440 people to get exposed to this kind of
00:25:21.750 stuff
00:25:22.140 bb2 does that answer the question
00:25:27.420 cool very cool if that's all the
00:25:29.730 questions we have we've got to take a
00:25:30.929 short break but before that one more our
00:25:32.580 applause thanks so much Elijah really
00:25:34.140 appreciate it
00:25:36.740 okie dose just interrupt like so I just
00:25:41.730 asked any a lot of artists because I
00:25:43.380 have stickers so it's coming yep no
00:25:47.040 they're just showing
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