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ruby-core for tenderfeet

Zachary Scott • June 27, 2014 • Singapore • Talk

In Zachary Scott's talk titled "Ruby-core for Tenderfeet" at the Red Dot Ruby Conference 2014, he aims to empower newcomers to contribute to the Ruby open-source community. The session emphasizes fostering confidence in new contributors and addressing obstacles such as fear and language barriers when interacting with ruby-core. Key discussions include:

  • Introduction to Ruby Core: Scott highlights the importance of contributing to Ruby core and introduces the basics of engaging with the community. He acknowledges that many attendees may not have prior contributions to Ruby, aiming to change that.

  • Types of Contributors: He outlines different categories of contributors including newcomers, engineers with experience in other languages, and hobbyists. He encourages engagement from all levels.

  • Best Practices for Contribution:

    • Scott shares best practices for newcomers on how to contribute, like opening tickets for feature requests or bugs and following up on communications via mailing lists.
    • He stresses the importance of communication within the ruby-core team, which operates across regions and languages, often utilizing semi-regular developer meetings to encourage discussion on proposed improvements and issues.
  • Community Engagement: The talk also covers the importance of Ruby community events, such as the RubyKaigi conference, where contributors can engage directly and ask questions in a supportive environment.

  • Navigating Language Barriers: Scott addresses the language barriers in discussions within the core team, suggesting that both English and Japanese discussions occur. He assures the audience that translation efforts are ongoing, facilitating better communication and participation.

  • Continuous Improvement: He emphasizes ongoing efforts to improve documentation and support for Ruby developers, plans for enhancing Ruby's functionality, and encourages contributions to diverse areas of the community.

Scott wraps up his talk reinforcing that every attendee is already a contributor by their presence and engagement at the conference. His goal is to inspire more individuals to actively participate in the Ruby community and contribute effectively, helping to shape the language's future.

ruby-core for tenderfeet
Zachary Scott • June 27, 2014 • Singapore • Talk

It's my personal goal to introduce as many people as possible to open-source and make it dead simple for them to contribute.

What happens if you have something specific you want to contribute?

This talk will show you the best practices for discussing features and ideas with ruby-core. We'll show you how to get your high-level concepts imagined through efficient channels of discussion to implementation.

We should talk about how fear and language barriers play a role in getting the right kind of feedback. We'll also talk about how ruby-core operates with the vast distance between its members.

Most importantly, we'll give you the confidence to work effectively with ruby-core and how we can improve Ruby together.

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Red Dot Ruby Conference 2014

00:00:24.840 morning hey how's everyone doing
00:00:31.960 let's hear it that was pathetic come
00:00:38.879 on I made it here you guys made it here act a little more excited than that
00:00:45.879 please thank you no not yet save that for the after
00:00:54.199 party all right so today we're going to talk about Ruby core for tender feet no
00:01:01.359 I don't mean Aaron but well kind
00:01:07.840 of uh now today we're going to talk about uh so contributing to open source
00:01:13.080 has been kind of a theme of this conference there was you know a few talks about it so far uh but we're going
00:01:19.600 to talk about specifically uh Ruby core and I want to talk about these four main things uh newcomers progress report some
00:01:27.400 things I've been working on uh working with the team and road map with some stuff we have going on I know kichi
00:01:34.159 covered a lot of the technical details I'm just going to cover some of the things that I think are important uh not
00:01:40.119 just specifically Ruby core but just things that affect everyone and uh we should be concerned
00:01:45.520 about and I'm Zach
00:01:54.079 uh I kind of need notes I guess
00:02:03.360 okay all right so yeah I don't want to focus on like the technical details this isn't going to be a very technical talk
00:02:09.759 so hopefully ease into your morning with some some information to help you uh we're going to we're not going to cover
00:02:15.800 how to run the test site in Ruby or like you know really contributing guidelines
00:02:21.239 or like uh you know uh how to how to report a bug I think uh Shabbat asan's
00:02:28.000 talk uh his lightning talk yesterday covered that pretty well and a lot of that information is already available on the internet uh and if you weren't a
00:02:35.400 around for shabat ass son's uh uh talk his slides are online on speaker.com
00:02:42.800 hsbt uh so check that out now I really want to focus on you
00:02:50.280 know what I've been learning from Ruby core and and and what we can learn from each other and work together to you know
00:02:57.599 to contribute
00:03:04.920 so our intended audience is definitely newcomers uh I think there's a lot of
00:03:10.159 people in here uh that probably haven't uh contributed to uh Ruby itself and I
00:03:16.480 want to change that um there'll be more later on this uh but let's let's briefly talk about
00:03:23.159 what I mean um you know maybe some of you you know I think Bren Brandon did
00:03:29.319 like a show show in hands how many people have contributed to open source and or have their own pet projects in open source and that's great um but
00:03:36.599 specifically I'm talking about someone that's like like I really want to focus on people who maybe have an idea
00:03:43.599 something they want to do with Ruby they want to work on but they're not really sure you know like how to do that like
00:03:50.159 how to how to collaborate with us and like I want to give you basically
00:03:56.879 the confidence to do that um and so that's what what we're going to basically that's that's our goal by the
00:04:02.000 end of this talk I want you to have the confidence to work with Ruby
00:04:08.319 so everyone has to start somewhere and uh you know some of the things that I've been working on uh specifically Ruby has
00:04:16.919 been uh working on finding new contributors uh onboarding people you
00:04:22.199 know adding adding new core committers um and helping them uh you know learn the ropes and like fix fix some patches
00:04:29.639 and stuff and Ruby uh was working on maintaining 187 and 192 with Terrence
00:04:35.280 from Heroku uh but that's that's going to come to an end actually we're going to make an announcement really soon and
00:04:41.240 hopefully like just kill that by the end of next month it was supposed to be this month but just been like busy with stuff
00:04:48.720 uh and definitely like one of the more important things which doesn't get a lot of um appreciation I think at least like
00:04:56.400 uh is security announcements like these are super important whether or not like there's vulnerability like uh teaching
00:05:03.199 people you know like what's what how their applications might be affected by Ruby and or the things that Ruby's built
00:05:10.240 upon um it's really important stuff and I want to I've been working on that as
00:05:16.160 well I I also joined uh the rails uh the rails team IR earn commit bit to rails
00:05:22.280 uh that was that was big important news for me uh been working on fixing a lot
00:05:27.440 of regressions helping get like 40 six out and 412 um and contributing
00:05:33.280 documentation mainly helping people who want to contribute and have patches like clean it up so it's acceptable and get
00:05:39.360 it merged in basically um and basically just anything rails uh so I want to I'm
00:05:45.680 actually one of three people that have uh commit to rails and Ruby and now Sinatra too which
00:05:52.280 is kind of crazy uh but I I do have plans like to
00:06:00.039 to work on these things like I have been working on this stuff uh me you know me and Constantine have uh delusions of
00:06:06.560 grandeur for what SRA 2 should look like and there's been some code written and we're definitely going to use
00:06:16.479 bacon like the three other people that were at the bar last night when we were having like this intense debate about
00:06:22.599 like our spec versus mini test might understand that one if they still
00:06:28.400 remember between that and like Keith's magic tricks but he's all out of flame
00:06:40.240 so H yeah so I've been I've been traveling a lot made it here I also went to South Africa gave a talk I went to
00:06:47.199 the Philippines basically just follow uh Winston around and like get him coffee and stuff it's really
00:06:54.720 great I love you Winston yeah thanks for having having me
00:06:59.800 man this is great so uh we want to talk about
00:07:04.960 different types of contributors I kind of brushed on like what what kind of uh you know what we're targeting and
00:07:10.720 newcomers we talked about the beginner and or ENT I guess entry level or
00:07:16.440 whatever you would call it um but there's also you know there's Engineers out out there there's engineers in this
00:07:22.560 audience definitely people who have like way more experience than even I do um as I saw like with the The Elixir ear Play
00:07:29.560 Talk yesterday I had no idea what the hell that guy was talking about but it sounded really
00:07:36.599 cool so how do we convince people like that to to like give up on Elixir and
00:07:42.120 come back to Ruby and actually use that amazing knowledge they
00:07:47.680 have because really like you can do that stuff with Ruby I mean you generally
00:07:53.560 don't but somebody out there uses flipflops so someone needs to maintain
00:08:01.800 that you but above all else you know everyone here is a contributor to Ruby
00:08:08.680 in one way or another and if you're not yet
00:08:14.720 convinced I have a plan right now to to turn you all into contributors in one way or another and I need two
00:08:21.440 things first I need everyone to stand
00:08:27.240 up and then I need Aaron where's
00:08:32.919 Aaron he's
00:08:40.279 pooping oh no bad
00:08:45.720 timing all right we have time I don't have a whole lot of slides just keep
00:08:53.680 standing I'm going to drink some coffee is he is he really pooping that
00:09:00.920 would be
00:09:07.320 ridiculous I think I saw him leave but I was like that wasn't him some other
00:09:15.920 guy yo maybe I should yell him I'm G to yell
00:09:28.120 him no internet yo needs
00:09:38.000 internet guess it's tender love everyone should yo Aaron right now if you have yo yo at
00:09:47.480 Tender Love there he is you know what today is Friday it's
00:09:54.560 freaking Friday let's do this who's got a camera there there's a
00:10:01.560 camera thank you we're not
00:10:10.440 done one more one more all right seems like everyone's
00:10:16.720 ready yeah so you're all a part of this community now and you're all contributors to Ruby because not only
00:10:22.360 did you do that but you're here you came to this conference you you know you company helped sponsor this thing that's
00:10:28.000 that's that's what that's how this stuff happens it's great we talked about different types of
00:10:34.800 contributors uh what about the actual people on the team want to introduce you to some of them so you have an idea of
00:10:41.120 what you're actually getting into right so I want to break it down into
00:10:48.760 basically three main categories there's companies uh either for profit or
00:10:57.680 not there's employees full-tim part- timr uh hobbyists even I guess you could
00:11:03.560 consider their weekend job uh Ruby and then there's
00:11:10.120 Matts he's in a league of his own that guy he doesn't even Shan had a slide is
00:11:16.120 like who who works on Ruby and it's like Matt's
00:11:23.440 no uh I still count him cuz he I mean he kind of kind of like answers Skype call
00:11:29.480 sometimes and stuff uh but if we break it down into these four groups uh like
00:11:35.560 the main companies that that we see on the team are uh you know GitHub cookpad
00:11:41.639 Heroku uh there's some people in red hat with kit and of course AT&T hires like
00:11:47.639 three full-time employees
00:11:56.480 and we have from the left Tender Love
00:12:02.839 uh K Maran and that's noou with a beer if you can he works at
00:12:09.120 Heroku nobody really knows that guy though uh yeah and then we have Matts
00:12:16.199 you know which without him Ruby wouldn't wouldn't be possible we wouldn't have any of this stuff really uh so that's
00:12:22.560 great um but you know there's a lot of people on the team um not not just those
00:12:27.800 guys not just those companies they definitely contribute a lot and what they do is is a great uh help to the to
00:12:33.560 the language in the community um but we have these people that you can rely on
00:12:39.800 and since Ruby has grown to uh this level of maturity as it is uh so so is
00:12:45.600 the code base and it's grown drastically and there's like a ton of libraries and ton of code in there that that we we
00:12:52.199 have to maintain and so basically we break it down uh certain people have have taken over gems in the standard
00:12:58.320 Library and they maintain them and those are the go-to people for like certain problems right and so it's important to
00:13:05.240 recognize who works on what and how to get a hold of them and that's really uh
00:13:10.480 you know depending on what you want to touch in in the language uh that's really the place to go um outside of
00:13:16.959 outside of Library land um like koese the knows a lot about garbage collection
00:13:22.519 so like if you have a question about performance stuff you you'd want to go to him or like uh you know you could go
00:13:29.040 to nari um but there's you know there there's lots of people on the team I think there's like almost 100 committers
00:13:35.120 at this point not all of them are active but they all have like their place in the team for
00:13:41.600 sure um and and what they really you know they really help us uh maintain the important parts and help others
00:13:48.320 understand why certain things exist you know when you take ownership of something you know you kind of have to
00:13:53.480 know why it's there and why it's important whether or not you know there's a better gem out there or whatever uh doesn't matter it's still in
00:14:00.519 the language and we still have to work on it and like make it
00:14:05.759 better for so for the last few years now uh we've been releasing pretty steadily like once a year and we've been doing
00:14:12.440 this like minor version bump thing on Christmas that's really great um it's
00:14:17.560 very semantic uh it's Christmas driven
00:14:24.680 development uh but our main focus is making Ruby better each year each version is better than the last right
00:14:32.000 and we want to encourage you to use those versions in your applications when testing Ruby when you know considering
00:14:39.720 uh things you should definitely uh be Forward Thinking and if possible definitely use trunk whenever whenever
00:14:47.199 you can even in production like it's my best advice for
00:14:55.839 you but uh you know this requires a lot of communication and given you know the
00:15:02.160 separation of of team members and location and region and stuff this is this is kind of an issue uh one way we
00:15:09.160 solve this is we have uh semi-regularly uh developer meetings so we schedule these um
00:15:17.240 whenever possible there is one uh coming up Shabad is on his computer outside to ask him uh there is there is one coming
00:15:24.720 up for like feature uh there's like a feature uh developer Mee where you you can submit any future requests you want
00:15:31.240 to make in I'm pretty sure this hasn't happened yet uh but uh so if you have
00:15:36.399 like a feature you want to submit to Ruby uh you know you can submit it and then you know put it in the agenda for
00:15:42.120 this meeting and we'll we'll discuss it and basically you know the It ultimately comes down to Matt's um if it's a hard
00:15:49.120 decision in any case so he gets to be like yes or no and it's a great way to get uh you know instant feedback uh
00:15:56.000 because we sit down whoever is available whoever ever we need in the in the meeting depending on what is going to be
00:16:01.759 discussed and basically go over uh this stuff and make decisions and uh you know try to scope
00:16:09.319 the next version of Ruby it's very uh you know we we use
00:16:15.240 these meetings to kind of track track our progress and plan and plan things ahead of time um we we also have uh Ruby
00:16:21.920 Ki which is like an annual uh uh conference in Japan um that it's very
00:16:28.880 very important for us to get everyone together and this year it's going to be September and you should definitely go
00:16:35.319 uh tickets aren't on sale yet I don't think um but as soon as I do you should grab one it sells out pretty fast um and
00:16:42.880 it's not as expensive as like
00:16:49.519 WWDC I don't even have a good joke for that I wish I did uh but the best part about it is we
00:16:57.480 do this thing called committers versus the world and what this is is like a live Q&A session where we take a stage
00:17:05.199 roughly this size and we sit everyone down in
00:17:11.319 chairs and then you guys ask me questions and they answer them it's like a great it's a great great deal but it's
00:17:19.839 it's it's another way to get instant feedback and you know pick our brains and figure out what you know what you're
00:17:25.880 interested in and ask us questions like when are we going to move to get or
00:17:31.360 whatever and Matts can like Dodge them it's pretty funny to
00:17:36.640 see uh and of course uh a lot of people are worried about this language barrier
00:17:42.799 thing and the good thing about the the like the Q&A session in ki is all the all the Japanese talks including that uh
00:17:49.559 have translators as of last year uh to English so even if you're not fluent in
00:17:54.880 Japanese uh you can still go and like uh you can ask question questions in English and it's fine like uh it's it's
00:18:01.840 a it's a great uh it's a great time uh but people people still worry about this outside of this context right
00:18:09.080 in the mailing list and stuff and so I want to kind of I want to kind of touch base on
00:18:14.240 this you know as as as you know uh we have we have a lot of Japanese uh people
00:18:20.360 on the team and not all of them uh speak great English and uh so you kind of you kind
00:18:27.799 of wonder like most of the internal discussions that they that take place between them are definitely in Japanese
00:18:34.039 like they don't revert to English just because they're talking about something important in Ruby they use their natural
00:18:39.080 language and that's fine like they should just be able to communicate however they want um but when it comes
00:18:44.679 to public facing stuff you know we're getting better at like you know translating this stuff having someone
00:18:50.679 take notes at the meetings so that we get an English version available on the for other committers that couldn't make
00:18:56.280 the meeting and get everyone synced on the same page page I think this is really important not everyone speaks uh
00:19:02.960 Japanese um and they they've been doing a great job at the at the translations and so that's really good
00:19:08.480 to see still I've been uh I've been doing my best to learn about the culture so
00:19:15.679 that I can help uh help with the team and and understand things better and I've been trying to improve my Japanese
00:19:22.480 skills it's really hard I've been studying for like a year now and I knew
00:19:28.679 to to copy that kanji down that one I didn't draw the first
00:19:35.600 time I tried to draw a go I was like this terrible this I can't write kanji yet uh but I
00:19:44.280 can definitely type it which is important uh so I do have a shortcut for
00:19:49.320 learning the language um
00:19:55.240 and as you'll see it's basically comes down down to the more beer I have the
00:20:00.320 more Japanese I know those are supposed to be beer bottles I
00:20:08.840 guess so funny story I was actually uh I was in Japan uh for oo Ki and Sasa Sasa
00:20:17.799 Dake koi's koi's wedding party and uh getting to the point where I can
00:20:23.880 like kind of figure stuff out right and I was like working in this Cafe with a few friends and I was just like drinking
00:20:31.159 coffee all day and uh you know I really had to go
00:20:36.200 to the bathroom and so like I went to the went went went to the bathroom and there was
00:20:42.159 like a sign on the door and it was like all in coni and I was like ah this must be important but the other bathroom uh
00:20:49.520 didn't have a sign so I was like what could this mean but the other bathroom was the
00:20:55.360 woman's bathroom and I wasn't conf confident like going in there I was like I don't know the culture if that's like
00:21:00.880 kosher or whatever so I went in there I did my business and uh I went to go
00:21:06.840 flush to the toilet and it didn't freaking flush so I just like walked out of there
00:21:12.919 ashamed and like never went back I was like no I can never go to that place again they're going to remember that guy
00:21:18.919 that didn't read the sign I don't know why that's relevant
00:21:27.039 but the trials and tribulations of me I
00:21:32.679 guess uh so moving right along I uh I want to help make uh you to avoid making
00:21:38.159 the same mistakes that I have definitely don't do that if you see a sign on the door like and you don't understand it especially like don't go in there just
00:21:44.799 don't go in there uh yeah so when we're working with
00:21:52.279 Ruby core uh I want to provide you some some great tips to to getting your point
00:21:57.360 across and and how to how to connect with us how to really get your point across and the first step is open a
00:22:04.000 ticket you would be surprised how many people forget this step and it's like well did
00:22:09.480 you do anything about it you're just like tweeting at me about this like I have no idea what you're talking about
00:22:15.480 right now and uh it's a super important step people always Overlook it but it's like the most important step make a
00:22:22.480 ticket and sign it and you know shabata had this had the notes yesterday how to how to report there stuff in the wiki
00:22:28.679 that will tell you that it's it's really simple it's just red mines not like rocket
00:22:34.360 science if you don't hear back from us from after a little while uh definitely uh ping us on the mailing list or if
00:22:40.720 it's not you know some cases like maybe you don't need a ticket like there was an instance recently where uh we needed
00:22:47.760 we really needed a release and so uh Aaron just like sent an email to the team was like hey what were you doing
00:22:54.640 about this like is anyone planning to do a release and then they're like oh yeah I totally forgot like op SSL has this
00:23:00.559 weird bug and like it's seg falting on Heroku every day like please just release it um affected a lot of people
00:23:08.120 so it was really like it's a really great step to just like send an email ping people ping the right people and
00:23:13.360 you know CC them or whatever and you can easily do this just by sending an email to Ruby cor rby.org uh and you don't
00:23:21.440 even need an account or anything I'm pretty sure it just goes right through uh yeah so
00:23:30.240 I kind of touched on this uh if if it's specific to like a feature or you know something important add an agenda item
00:23:37.360 to the meeting and you know tag the ticket that you set up or if you don't have a ticket like I've put questions in
00:23:43.600 there before like something something and you know I didn't attend the meeting
00:23:48.720 because it was like 2 am Pacific time so I missed it but I I got a nice little feedback in you know in the meeting
00:23:54.640 summary that was like oh yeah you know someone talked about this this is how you do it whatever and that was great
00:24:00.080 because I didn't have to like bother anyone with an email I just like put a oneline thing in there and they're like oh okay we can talk about that it's on
00:24:07.279 the agenda it'll just take up people's precious time and and last but certainly
00:24:12.720 not least uh nou he's like the key to everything and especially in Ruby like if you have a question just ask him he
00:24:19.000 probably knows it uh so yeah if all fails those are your
00:24:25.760 basically like four Pro tips to bottom line contributing to Ruby core
00:24:31.360 learn Japanese avoid doors with signs and ping
00:24:40.000 noou onward and forward I want to talk about the road map we're almost through this thing I'm doing great on
00:24:47.120 time uh so I talked a little bit about the wiki I've been kind of cleaning this thing up uh there's certain stuff that
00:24:53.039 like doesn't quite belong or it's like misguided it's hard to find it's buried whatever it's like no one really wants
00:24:58.600 to work on this thing it sucks it's like you know it's a Wiki like who wants to deal with that but it's actually super
00:25:04.039 important and anyone that goes to the issue tracker should be able to find like exactly what they need and all like
00:25:10.760 in relatively quick succession um for the things they want and the things they want to
00:25:17.440 do I'm going to keep working on bringing you know more people onto the team doing things like you know this talk for
00:25:24.279 example and getting people uh to understand how how work as a team and so
00:25:29.960 that they can better contribute and help us out uh that kind of covers that and
00:25:37.000 eventually I want to retire someday so that's why we need everyone
00:25:43.360 here to start contributing so you know my job's a little easier I can work on other stuff such as
00:25:50.720 arock you probably don't uh even realize you have it on your system but it's super important and if you install gem
00:25:58.600 uh you probably like opt out of the documentation but you shouldn't you should install it I'm telling you right
00:26:03.880 now I know it sucks and really slow but I want to make that I want to improve that um definitely starting with with
00:26:11.120 rails now that I have Commit I am like fully focused on making the API docs
00:26:16.200 better and easier to find what you need and differentiating between public and private API because rails has some funky
00:26:22.640 stuff that they do with private methods and public methods are actually private and blah blah blah
00:26:28.240 um so working on that the speed thing uh it's really bad like installing rails
00:26:34.320 takes like 30 seconds to install the documentation that's ridiculous it shouldn't take that long it should be
00:26:39.640 like you know instant um it's just some files like how long does it take to
00:26:44.919 download like five five megabytes or whatever uh maybe it does take 30
00:26:51.159 seconds I don't know no there's definitely some improvements we can make there uh and
00:26:56.679 the internationalization thing is really important so one of the other committers recently added uh support for this in
00:27:02.720 the source so you could have inline translation not inline translations but you could have translations in a similar
00:27:08.480 way that you would have translations in a rails app like you would just have a folder with you know your translations
00:27:14.840 and you would tag a method or something so Ardo Ardo uh finds out you know about
00:27:20.880 this method and picks up the translation the language you want to you want to use um and we're trying to get that out in
00:27:26.640 like next major version of our dock uh but it's definitely it's it's definitely like almost ready um and then as we
00:27:34.120 eventually have to start running docs that's the hard part uh we do have
00:27:39.159 Japanese and English docs um and we are working on improving that
00:27:44.960 s that situation uh which is great uh shabata has put a lot of work into this
00:27:50.000 um the Japanese site recently got a facelift and looks something like this
00:27:57.640 which is much better than if you look at the uh English ardoc generated output um
00:28:03.440 which I've been working with someone to try and get them to redesign the pages because it's like horrible looking and
00:28:09.559 like really hard to find stuff uh someone did recently go through and make all of the pages really accessible for
00:28:16.279 uh like for blind people so that they can uh reason about the documentation
00:28:21.760 and find methods and do searches and stuff and it'll like you know it'll read it out to them or do all that awesome
00:28:27.880 stuff for people that you know want to want to learn about ruby and can't can't
00:28:32.960 get there um I kind of been playing around with this idea uh having a contributor
00:28:39.120 site similar to rails um so sometimes in like some my slides I have like uh and I
00:28:46.120 think kichi has a a slide where he does uh like noou patch commit like count and
00:28:52.399 so I wrote some like script stuff like using the git Jem I I think so that I
00:28:58.640 could uh like find out you know who had the most commits last week or stuff like
00:29:03.799 that and I want to like we basically could build a similar site to this um which would be great to see noou at the
00:29:09.240 top of that thing and you know like five other people but you know we're going to get
00:29:16.919 there and like this is the things that I think are important there's definitely other stuff that people are working on that are super important you know
00:29:23.279 performance improvements etc etc and you know let's let's work on it together and
00:29:29.679 let's let's work together to make Ruby awesome and I'm Zach and thank you so
00:29:40.279 much any questions for Zach Zach um you mentioned about people not installing
00:29:47.120 adock and the that you don't want them to how do people actually make use of
00:29:52.679 our do on their local death machines there's two ways you can run a local
00:29:57.960 Ardo server which will load the documentation dynamically and serve up
00:30:03.159 the pages for you just load up the it in your browser I think it'll even open your browser for you or something uh but
00:30:09.200 there's also RI which is command line um which is great uh so if you're you can
00:30:15.480 also use it like if you're in IRB already uh so you just type like help and then like the constant name and like
00:30:21.279 the method or whatever like an instant method and that that'll like load up the documentation basically in like a less
00:30:26.919 and like you like peruse around and stuff it's really great like I use it all the
00:30:32.880 time thanks so I think the primary reason people don't use ourg is that when
00:30:38.799 you're installing gems takes forever it takes forever so it takes forever to
00:30:45.799 build rubies with documentation as well is there another tool yeah that uh will
00:30:52.399 install the r dock after the fact after you the like like asynchronously so you
00:30:59.880 bundle no documentation and then it installs the documentation later well
00:31:05.039 it's not async because we don't have the node technology yet but we're going to get
00:31:10.960 there uh I don't remember the question that was a stupid joke uh damn
00:31:19.120 it uh no so there is a gem called arock data and sorry Aon you're gonna have to
00:31:26.159 wait uh no arock data is like after theact thing that uh compiles the
00:31:31.919 documentation for every version of Ruby and all the core docs and uh we use that for like Windows installer because it
00:31:38.559 can't ship the ardoc and it's it just makes the binary so much bigger um so we can install it after the fact it's
00:31:45.480 really nice but it also requires like maintenance like you have to build the compile the documentation for each
00:31:51.880 version and release it and stuff yeah anybody
00:31:58.600 else Aaron what were you gonna say ah thank you did I get it right
00:32:06.559 great success well uh if not thanks Zach thank
00:32:26.080 you
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