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Hi there! Thank you so much to both of you. That was absolutely wonderful. We are coming up pretty close to our time slot for our panel discussion.
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So, I don't know if we have time for a quick question. I think we are going to go straight to the panel. We're waiting for Tom to join, and there he is!
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Welcome, everyone! Thank you, Julik, for your talk. We have some questions for you. Kir, can I start with you? Did anything announced that was coming to Ruby 3 this year jump out at you, and why?
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Personally, I'm really excited about the actor pattern coming to Ruby and the Ractor implementation that is in progress. I've been closely watching the VR open on ruby/ruby on GitHub and trying to get my hands dirty playing with actors, learning the new Ruby model, and providing feedback. I'm excited to see where it goes.
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Thanks, Eunice. How about you, Julik?
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I'm really excited about the work Samuel Williams is doing with non-blocking I/O. I think, at the moment, most of the applications we write in Ruby, especially network-bound ones, could benefit from more concurrency. A lot of performance bottlenecks are I/O bound, and if all of the I/O could become non-blocking, it would really put Ruby back in the same league with Node and Go in terms of I/O performance and concurrency.
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Thank you, Ramon. Do you have a question for Tom?
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Well, before that, I want to give Tom the opportunity to tell us what he is excited about in Ruby 3, if there is anything that jumped out at you.
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For me, it's probably the pattern matching, although I think that is just becoming stable in Ruby 3.0. The Ractor model is also very interesting to me. I would very much like to see how that becomes defined and what final product it becomes.
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Awesome! Thank you all so much! Here's a more cheeky question, if I may. What's your go-to karaoke song?
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By the way, we do have a sign-up sheet for karaoke later today. It’s going to be at bit.ly/noruco-karaoke. I hope the link will come up on the YouTube chat below. So, Yulik, do you have one?
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Oh, last time I went to karaoke, I was so drunk that I actually forgot! It’s going to take too long for me to remember which song that was, probably something from the Village People.
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How about you, Kir?
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Yeah, personally, I think I almost never been to karaoke. I’ve been around my friends singing, but I’ve never done that myself. So I’m not sure I have one yet, but maybe I’ll have one once I try it with some Ruby people tonight.
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You’ve got a chance today! How about you, Julik? Have you got a go-to song?
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Not really! The only other time I did karaoke was EuRuKo 2019. Otherwise, I would say Backstreet Boys - 'I Want It That Way.' That's a good song!
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It’s a good karaoke song! Passionately nice! Okay, we’ll remember that.
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I’m curious, Yulik. How did you get started with Ruby? How old were you when you started programming?
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Those are two questions! I started programming in high school, where we just had to program a little bit in BASIC just as part of the regular curriculum. I didn’t pay much attention to it. I got into programming when I was about 18 because I needed some web work done. I was a designer on a project, and the web developer just said he wasn’t going to program the stuff I was designing. So, I decided to try it myself.
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With Ruby, I’ve been busy for maybe 12-13 years. I think I started using Ruby around the same time as Victor, who gave a presentation earlier, about 14 or 15 years ago.
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Wow! How about you, Kir?
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I started programming when I was still in school. I was about 13 years old doing some HTML and CSS for websites because that seemed fun. Later, I wanted to add more dynamic functionality to those websites, so I learned PHP. I started making some cash doing websites for others while still in school, mostly using that to buy more games for my PlayStation.
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A few years after that, I discovered Ruby on Rails, which takes much less time to do CRUD applications than I found with PHP. It’s literally one day of work versus a week! I started getting into Ruby on Rails about ten years ago.
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Tom, how about you?
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It’s been a while. I started out with HTML and Dreamweaver, but the first real programming language I learned was probably Visual Basic .NET around 2005-2006. Then I switched to PHP, and later Ruby.
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Now I’m trying to learn Rust more. I want to be more familiar with that. That’s what I’m working on.
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Eureka, Kir! You just gave us a wonderfully choreographed pre-recorded talk. I’m wondering how that experience was for you. Is this your first time doing something like this?
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For me, it was my first experience doing a talk in dual; it was challenging. The timing wasn’t right, the tools weren’t cooperating—there were all sorts of challenges. It was also different doing it live.
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It was also the first time for me doing pre-recorded talks. The program and I had many transitions between speakers. As Julik said, that made it a bit trickier. I'm not sure if it would be easier if we did it live because transitions could be terrible, and at least you can cut some of the gaps.
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Yeah, I probably will try this again, but it was special. I didn’t have this experience before.
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It can be pretty hard! How about you, Tom? You’ve got some experience with this kind of pre-production.
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I do not have any experience with pre-production. I probably would get too much into detail, trying to get it all perfect, take out all the small gaps I make, and never get around to actually finishing it. So it’s probably better that I just do it live and accept any faults in the presentation.
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Eulek, I’m sorry, please go ahead!
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It was super challenging but also very rewarding. What are your favorite tools for development?
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I mentioned one in my talk; I love using Vim! I’m very thankful to those who told me to try it when I was using Sublime Text. Of course, I also love Git; I enjoy getting a lot into the details and exploring its magical commands.
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For personal automation, I use Hammerspoon a lot on my computer. Most of my system actions are done through that—all the shortcuts and window management. I can write everything in Lua and really take control!
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Awesome! And how about you, Kir? What are your favorite development tools?
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I’ve been enjoying using Sorbet to type my Ruby code, especially for areas where the price of a mistake would be too high. I think at this point, Sorbet is pretty mature as a library and certainly a tool to adopt.
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Another tool that I’ve been exploring and enjoying lately is Nix. It makes managing local dependencies much easier. You can think of it as Homebrew but without all the versioning and conflicts.
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What about you, Yulik? What are your favorite development tools?
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I’m probably one of the few dinosaurs still firmly with Vim! I also use Ruby frequently, and I think it’s essential to have tools that are dynamically changeable.
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Anything that allows you to take a crowbar to it and change how it works is great! Ruby and JavaScript, until you introduce sophisticated pre-compilers, work this way.
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So, what fascinates me more than specific languages is how to solve problems efficiently. For example, with OpenGL, if you want to create a window and draw a line, you can use any language.
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However, you might spend more time setting up the libraries and frameworks than writing the logic itself, and that’s interesting.
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One question we asked our panelists in the previous sessions was: Have you been watching a lot of talks during this time? Is there a talk you would recommend that moved or influenced you recently?
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Yulik, why don’t you start us off?
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I think there was one talk by Sandimetz which was really impressive. It revealed the impact that generations have on equality and equity, and the acquisition of wealth. It highlighted questions like whether you can own property at a certain age.
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Kir, is there a talk that has stood out to you?
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The talk that Yulik mentioned sounds really interesting! I should try to watch it. I personally haven’t watched too many things lately; this year has been kind of crazy.
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As for myself, I can relate to selfish programming by Beljesus. It is about communication and the practical side of development.
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Ramon, how are we doing on time? Can we still take a few more questions?
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Sure! We've got time for one more question. If all goes well, will I see all of you at EuRuKo next year?
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Yes, absolutely! I’m looking forward to it. I used to live in Helsinki for a few years, and I can’t wait to come back!
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I hope to see you all there as well. Thanks again for being here today!
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Thank you all for taking the time to answer our questions. It’s been a pleasure talking to you. I hope you submitted your karaoke forms, which won’t be recorded!
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What a day it has been! It’s been delightful to share these talks with you. I’m going to give a big thanks to everyone here today. Raita, would you like to give a couple of shout-outs?
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Yes! I want to thank Ramon, our other emcee; Arno, who organized the community track; Tom, my partner; Hank, our tech guy; our sponsors; and Andrew from White Code Captioning for providing our captions today!
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Thanks to all our speakers, and to the folks watching, thank you for sticking with us all day. Don’t forget we’ve got karaoke coming up in five minutes.
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